Vindication for JD Tippit

Once again, Ms. Baker is taking historical documents and working them into the “Mythological World of Oswald” as told by Judyth Vary Baker.  Ms. Baker’s hypothesis is that the FBI lied by typing over a report changing the time of Officer JD Tippit’s death from 1:15 to 1:25. (1)

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Autopsy Report on Officer J. D. Tippit, by Earl F. Rose #2, page 11

The first document that Ms. Baker refers to in her post is the authorization for an autopsy to be completed on Officer JD Tippit.  It is a document completed by the Justice of the Peace, Joe B. Brown Jr. authorizing Dr. Earl F. Rose to complete an autopsy on the slain police officer. (2)

In looking at the document, it should be noted that Ms. Baker correctly identifies the time of death as 1:15 PM on November 22, 1963.  What is absent from Ms. Baker’s use of this document is the comment next to it that says “D O A Methodist Hospital”.  What this does is establish that Tippit arrived at the hospital dead.  This arrival time was at 1:15 PM.  The reality is we do not know what time Tippit died based on this document because he was not alive  when he arrived. The body of the text on this form clearly states that he was dead on arrival at the hospital.  The document was signed by Brown at 3:00 PM giving permission for the autopsy and for the release of the body to the Dudley Funeral Home after its completion.  We know that Dr. Rose began his autopsy at 3:15  minutes after Judge Brown signed the authorization. (3)

Ms. Baker takes this document and compares it to an FBI report completed on November 29, 1963 by FBI Agent Robert C. Lish.  She claims that the FBI typed over the document changing the time from 1:15 to 1:25.  The document that she cites to make this claim is a report filed by Special Agent Robert C. Lish.  on November 29, 1963.  This document indicates that JD Tippit was pronounced dead at 1:25 PM.  SA Lish is reporting on the paperwork on Officer Tippit in possession of the Dudley Funeral Home.  The report shows that Officer Tippet was pronounced dead by Dr. Liguori at 1:25 PM.

Commission Document 5 - FBI Gemberling Report of 30 Nov 1963 re: Oswald Current Section: IV. Shooting of Dallas Police Officer J. D. Tippit, Page 82
Commission Document 5 – FBI Gemberling Report of 30 Nov 1963 re: Oswald
Current Section: IV. Shooting of Dallas Police Officer J. D. Tippit, Page 82

One must ask, why would this document say 3:25?  Did the funeral home make a mistake?  It is based on the funeral home documents that SA NISH created this report so that can explain why it has 3:25 in his document.  Fortunately a very important person, Dr. Ligouri was also interviewed. SA Nish reports that Dr. Ligouri stated that Officer Tippit was “pronounced dead” by him at 3:25.  Why would Dr. Ligouri state to the FBI that he was dead at 3:25?  It is easy to jump to the conclusion that this document was also altered to incriminate Lee Oswald. Or it was typed on the same typewriter that just does not effectively do its job. (4)

So what explains the discrepancy?  Going back to the first document, the 1:15 would demonstrate the time of arrival based on the way autopsy request is written.  It does not indicate is the time he was pronounced dead.  What happens when a person is brought into a hospital?  The doctors in the emergency room very often take measures to revive the person who is laying before them on the table.  They do not pronounce the patient dead and then begin life saving measures.  As a matter of fact, one would imagine that in 1963 there would have been as much a sense of urgency to save a police officer as there was to save President Kennedy. Is there evidence that this took place?

It turns out there is evidence that this did take place.  A Dallas police officer responding to the call of Tippit being shot, intercepted the ambulance on the way to the hospital.  The two officers, (5) RA Davenport and WR Bardin also place the time of death at 1:15.  This actually looks like they had originally put 1:25 and then retyped over it.  Changing it back to 1:15.  The point is however that he was dead upon arrival at 1:15 according to the document signed by Judge Brown.  The interesting part of their report is that they wrote about the doctor taking life saving measures attempting to bring Tippit “back to life”. When examining the radio traffic of the Dallas Police Department, the radio transmission to the patrol cars indicated that at 1:28 PM an announcement was made over the radio waves that it was Officer JD Tippit who had been shot and believe to be pronounced DOA. (6)  All of this fits perfectly with the following timeline:

1:08 Tippit radios in about suspicious person (Police Transmission Time)

1:15 Tippit arrives at the hospital. (Hospital Time)

1:15-1:25 Life saving measures begin. (Hospital Time)

1:25 Dr. Ligouri Prounces Tippit Dead (Hospital Time)

1:28 Announcement of Tippit DOA over the radio. (Police Transmission Time)

Keeping in mind that these times, are not on the synchronized atomic clocks that work with our cell phones.  There is the potential for differences in the timeline but it is a finite twenty minute timeline in length.   The point is yet again, Ms. Baker is taking liberties with historical documents to make a hypothesis that would have involved many moving parts.  The Dallas police reports would have had to have been doctored, since Officer Tippit’s murder would have been under their jurisdiction and this would have to align with the FBI reports, the hospital documents, the funeral home documents and every individual report filed by a police officer.   Judge Brown and Dr. Ligouri would have had to have been complicit in this as well as the police officers who were in the emergency room with Tippit.  To support her hypothesis there would be too many moving parts to sustain it.  The timeline presented here works and makes sense.  Once again, the Baker Oswald Mythology is not sustainable with this evidence that supports a reasonable explanation.

Matthew “The Hitman” Scheufele

(1) Judyth Baker, August 30, 2015 11:27 PM Screen Captures Below

(2) Rose, Earl F. [Autopsy Report on Officer J. D. Tippit, by Earl F. Rose #2], Legal Document, November 22, 1963; (http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338334/ : accessed September 05, 2015), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, http://texashistory.unt.edu; crediting Dallas Municipal Archives , Dallas, Texas.

(3) Rose, Earl F. [Autopsy Report on Officer J. D. Tippit, by Earl F. Rose #2], Legal Document, November 22, 1963; (http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338334/ : accessed September 05, 2015), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, http://texashistory.unt.edu; crediting Dallas Municipal Archives , Dallas, Texas.

(4) Commission Document 5 – FBI Gemberling Report of 30 Nov 1963 re: Oswald Current Section: IV. Shooting of Dallas Police Officer J. D. Tippit, Page 81

(5) Dallas (Tex.). Police Dept. [Supplementary Offense Report Concerning Shooting of Officer Tippit #5], Text, 196u; (http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338270/ : accessed September 05, 2015), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, http://texashistory.unt.edu; crediting Dallas Municipal Archives , Dallas, Texas.

(6) Dallas (Tex.). Police Dept. [Radio Transcript for November 22, 1963], Letter, November 22, 1963; (http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339128/ : accessed September 05, 2015), University of North Texas Libraries, The Portal to Texas History, http://texashistory.unt.edu; crediting Dallas Municipal Archives , Dallas, Texas., Page 73

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Funeral Home Record

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